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Post  Innocenti-71 on Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:31 am

Most of you of course will know that there had two Cometas been prepared by Innocenti for display on the Tokio Motor Show 1968.
As I'm planning to do a replica of one of them I'm looking for fotos showing the original version.
The bike shown in Vittorios book (see pic) is also a replica of the original bike so it's not 100% correct. (also no sense to make the replica of the replica...)


Luckily last week I managed to get copys from the only two existing original Innocenti pictures (Polaroids) showing the two bikes before shipment. (Unfortunately Vittorio didn't allow me to put the pics on net so I can only tell you that the second bike looked quite different in painting...sorry.)

Since both pictures are showing the bikes only from front & left side the question is - how did they paint the right side and the back?
Strangely I couldn't find any information or pictures of the Tokio Show on the Net but I cannot believe the Japanese didn't take any pictures of these beauties.

Was someone else more successfull and found some pictures of the original bikes???


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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  daz.h on Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:07 pm

the last time i was in coxy's museam (6 years ago) i was there almost all day, boring each other and rob devlin with various luna related nonsense, he was far knowledgeable than me, he showed me a huge picture of the japanese machine, must be easily 4ft long, so perhaps stuart langing could help you out, he had also several vega sales brochures in japanese (which he would not part with Evil or Very Mad ) despite knowing i collected such stuff, offered to sell me a length of lui wall paper though, which i refused at the time Embarassed
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  Innocenti-71 on Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:11 am

PERFECT DAZ!!!
Thanks very much for the information, I'll try to contact Stuart later...
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  daz.h on Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:39 am

if he has it and it never went into coxys own stuff he refused to sell then try and get stuart to do a few prints of it.
adam winstone on here did me a couple of huge prints of a Australian gp200 and a cometa with indicators, he took the scans from a booklet i have, still not got round to havig them framed Embarassed
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  Innocenti-71 on Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:52 am

Managed to get Stuart on the line today, all he knews about this scoot is the poster he got reprinted:


Again the bike is only shown from the right side...anyway I ordered it and will now try to contact the Motor Show Organisers, maybe they got an archive.
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  zefarelly on Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:05 am

I have a few photo's of this scooter from MIlan '97.
def a front, possibly a side shot too

I was planning a replica back then as I fell in love with it, and the model D racer . . . . and a the 350 twin, and . . . .

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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  Innocenti-71 on Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:36 am


Oh, thanks zefarelly!
Any information is highly appreciated! I really can't remember seeing the bike at Eurolambretta...
Otherwise I would have enough pics.
Anyway the problem with the replica is the same like I have: according to Vittorio they too didn't know how the bike should look like on the right side.
Unfortunately all my contacts to Japan ended up with no new information.

The bike is at the painter right now, the legshield required quite a lot work at the front fixing area.
I hope the Biancospino will find the way to the metal within the next two weeks.
Will post some pics later.
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  Innocenti-71 on Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:39 am

Project is moving on!
Since a few weeks the bikes at the painter, no major problems except for the dents in the upper legshield - I had to remove the clamp to get the hammer in the right direction:


Not only italian beauties at the paintshop:


The murals will be done at www.farbzone4.de.
Spend 3hours last saturday discussing about the correct colours - we'll need a second session for sure...
After reworking the original Polaroids the colours look quite different to the ones used for the book.
Knowing we'll never get it 100% correct with help of 2 original Innocenti colour charts we're as close as possible - hopefully.
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  Innocenti-71 on Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:34 pm

Cometa is back from painter before taking it to the Airbrusher a quick rebuild to see everything still fits fine:






Ok, some work left on the engine


Unfurtunately I'll have to hack & reweld the manifold to align everything correctly


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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  Snails on Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:35 pm

I just thought, as every picture is from the same side is it possible they only bothered doing one side and the other was just plain
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Post  Innocenti-71 on Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:22 am

Snails wrote:I just thought, as every picture is from the same side is it possible they only bothered doing one side and the other was just plain

Possible - for every company but not Innocenti! cyclops
That would have been far too simple...
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  Innocenti-71 on Sun May 15, 2011 9:58 am

Quick update - the bike is still at the Airbrusher so I spend the time working on the engine.

j125 cylinder welded up & drilled to suit Lubematic system.


and now also the actuator arm fits without problems:


more pics later
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  daz.h on Tue May 17, 2011 3:15 pm

very good work on the cylinder, have a word with tino, see if he can make some alloy j125 cylinders, i'm sure they would sell better than the 75cc kits he currently does, are you planning on somehow increaseing the oil flow due to the increase in cc's?
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  Innocenti-71 on Sun May 22, 2011 2:58 pm

I will use synthetic oil anyway and will add (of course) 2% also to the petrol during running in a recommended in the users manual.
With the modern oil I don't think it will be neccassary to have more oil even with more cc.
You can change the oilflow also on a screw on the oilpump but I prefer to leave this tiny toy untouched...
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Post  Innocenti-71 on Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:37 am

Little update from today
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  daz.h on Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:13 am

bounce very nice, well done its a credit to you.
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  Innocenti-71 on Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:34 pm

Thanks Daz!
Some pics from the weekend



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Post  Admin on Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:16 am

Looks superb so far - should be a cracking scooter
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  Innocenti-71 on Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:44 am

Ok folks - finally here's the result!
I really spend every night & weekend to get that bloody thing ready for Eurolambretta and yes! We started on time but struggelt at the Dutch border with strange carb problems...which turned out to be a locked rear brake as I found out just yesterday! (So Eurolambretta trip was done on my ยด69 Jet200 without any problems)
I will change the sparewheel carrier for the original one this week since it looks a little bit overloaded to me...














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Post  Thackers on Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:20 pm

That's fantastic, one of the best i reckon. Well done. cheers cheers cheers
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  daz.h on Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:24 pm

very nice, what coil are you using?
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Post  Innocenti-71 on Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:24 pm

Thanks!
Coil is the IDM one used on all Varitronic/Vespatronic.
It would nicely fit the original fixings since the hole distance is identical to the original one but with the 125cc cylinder cowl there's just not enough room so I had to put them offset.
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  Snails on Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:57 am

Fantastic. Shame about the Eurolambretta
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Post  Paulie on Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:16 am

Well done mate. A fantastic job. Very Happy
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Re: Cometa 'Tokyo Motor Show 1968' replica

Post  zefarelly on Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:27 pm

A beautiful Lambretta in a perfect period livery.



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